I could see a skeptical response already. Grusch is saying one thing, but he is shaking his head no as he says it. Also, he has kind of a smirk that suggest game play. I bit of me is feeling skeptical against him... I am not saying he's lying. I am saying, if I were counseling someone and they gave psychical language that seemed negate what they are saying, I would point out the incongruity and ask what is going on.