The amount of indirect evidence, like grounded, sound people reporting their experiences is something to contend with.

Your comment had me thinking about how, while watching youtube videos, like Curt Jaimungal interviewing Leslie Kean. There was some harsh, trollish like comments in the live chat attacking her credibility, and that she knows nothing. Some attacked the whole of it, and anyone that was naïve enough to buy in... Some folks got riled up, but I am watching it unfold and wondering, why are they even in the channel. Do people have nothing better than to go around attacking people? How much better would their time be just going to build something good somewhere in a domain they favor?

Nick Cook is interesting. Zero Point Energy is super interesting! I don't understand how, they know that exists, but that doesn't qualify as the Aether.